Эпикур

[aptsvet]

Если Бог желает предотвратить зло, но не может, он не всемогущ. Если может, но не желает, то он есть зло. Если может и желает, то откуда берется зло? Если не может и не желает, то какой же он Бог?

(Собственно говоря, это тезис теологии "слабого Бога", во времена Эпикура этот вариант всерьез не рассматривали.)

Comments

[aptsvet.livejournal.com]

Briefly, my grudge against God is this: if you gave us a moral compass, you should have taken more care to align it with yours, otherwise it makes no sense to many of us. This universe seems quite compatible with a malignant God or with an indifferent one. But my ideas of goodness seem much more generous than those of this particular God.
Do not take me wrong, I do think this world to be a marvel, albeit a terrible one. Is it better than nothing? It certainly is, for me, but I bet there have been countless millions that would have settled for nothing instead. Yes, we have the promise, but I do not trust the party who made it.

[shkrobius.livejournal.com]

Your grievance would be understandable if the forbidden fruit of knowledge were stuck into our mouths against our wishes. That was not the case. Our creator wanted best for us and did not give us what you call moral compass. We wanted it, we invented it, we defined our lives around it, we integrated it into our selves, we desired to judge the creation, and every day we want more of it. We were forewarned in no uncertain terms against it. Now, you want this "moral compass" of our own chosing and making to be aligned with our creator's will. Moreover, you want it to make perfect sense. Again, what do you want Him to do? To make sense out of nonsense? That cannot be done. Have it occurred to you that it might be Him who is having difficulty in aligning His will with our insane demands and ridiculous notions, with self-contradictory expectations that no omnipotence can deliver? Those "countless millions that would've settled for nothing" got exactly what they wanted. Before their incomprehensible wish was fulfilled, they were given their last chance to see and want something.